Yellow-collared scape moth vs Eight-spotted forester

These two are easy to mix up. Here's how to tell a yellow-collared scape moth from an eight-spotted forester, and whether either one bites or stings.

Yellow-collared scape moth (Cisseps fulvicollis)
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Yellow-collared scape moth

Cisseps fulvicollis

Eight-spotted forester (Alypia octomaculata)
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Eight-spotted forester

Alypia octomaculata

≠The key differences

Narrower-winged and plain dark with a yellow-orange collar on the thorax; it lacks the large pale spots on the wings.

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Yellow-collared scape mothEight-spotted forester
To humansNon-toxicNon-toxic
SizeWingspan 25-35 mm30-40 mm wingspan
ColoursBlack, Yellow, Orange, Metallic blueBlack, Orange, Yellow, White
FamilyErebidaeNoctuidae
HabitatOpen habitats: meadows, fields, roadsides, gardens, and other grassy areasWoodland edges, gardens, vineyards, hedgerows and riparian areas where host vines grow
RangeWidespread across much of North America, including southern Canada and the United StatesEastern North America: from southern Canada (Ontario, Quebec) through the eastern United States, south into parts of the southeastern US
ActiveLate spring to autumn (months vary by latitude); primarily day-flying and active at duskDay-active; adults fly in spring and summer (one to two broods depending on latitude)
Pest?NoNo

🔍How to spot a yellow-collared scape moth

  1. Narrow dark brownish-black wings with no bold markings; hindwings pale and translucent at the base
  2. Distinct yellow to orange collar (thoracic tuft) immediately behind the head
  3. Slim, dark body, sometimes with a bluish sheen
  4. Day-flying habit and frequent visits to flowers in sunny grassy areas

Full yellow-collared scape moth guide →

🔍How to spot an eight-spotted forester

  1. Look for a black moth with two pale yellow spots on each forewing and two white spots on each hindwing (eight spots total).
  2. Day-flying behavior: active in daylight on flowers or resting on leaves.
  3. Wingspan about 30-40 mm, a stout black body and orange hair tufts on the front and middle legs.
  4. Caterpillars on grape or Virginia creeper banded in orange, black and white are likely Alypia caterpillars.

Full eight-spotted forester guide →

?Frequently asked questions

What is the difference between a yellow-collared scape moth and an eight-spotted forester?

Narrower-winged and plain dark with a yellow-orange collar on the thorax; it lacks the large pale spots on the wings.

Is a yellow-collared scape moth or an eight-spotted forester more dangerous?

Yellow-collared scape moth: Non-toxic. Eight-spotted forester: Non-toxic. Adults do not bite or sting. Harmless to people.

Identification from photos is never certain: don't handle insects you can't identify, and get medical advice for bites, stings or allergic reactions.